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University of California, San Diego was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
September 8, 2008	Good article nominee	Not listed
February 25, 2009	Peer review	Reviewed
July 16, 2009	Good article nominee	Not listed
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Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Policy Analysis - Summer Session22[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 1 August 2022 and 4 September 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Sunsh1n3d011 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: A2prieto.

— Assignment last updated by A2prieto (talk) 04:15, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comma in name[edit]

According to https://brand.ucsd.edu/logos-and-brand-elements/use-of-the-university-name/index.html, "University of California San Diego" should not have a comma in its name. Should this be reflected in the article?

(I'm on mobile right now and don't remember link formatting, sorry.) SheepTester (talk) 07:30, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

+1 that this should be reflected in the article. The page you linked has been moved here, but the brand guidelines now reflect this. The statement and rationale:

"We no longer use a comma when referencing the University of California San Diego. Our goals are to avoid the multiple variations currently used for naming the campus — University of California (“at” or “in,” or with the comma) San Diego — and to foster consistency, so use this name in all print and online applications." JohnDyss (talk) 22:47, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is our guiding policy on how we name articles. In general, we follow the conventions used in most of the available sources - we are not beholden to the wishes and demands of the article's subject. ElKevbo (talk) 00:18, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

However, sources *do* use this style and use it consistently (note the style consistency was made around 2015), an application of the WP:SET would indicate that the title without the comma is most appropriate:

These newspapers have consistently used no comma since 2015:

San Diego Union Tribune: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22University+of+California%2C+San+Diego%22+%C2%A0site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.sandiegouniontribune.com

Times of San Diego: https://www.google.com/search?q=university+of+California%2C+San+Diego+site%3Atimesofsandiego.com

More consistent:

Los Angeles Times: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22university+of+california%2C+san+diego%22+site%3Alatimes.com

Little to no consistency:

San Francisco Chronicle: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22university+of+california+san+diego%22+site%3Asfchronicle.com

New York Times: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22university+of+california%2C+san+diego%22+site%3Anytimes.com

Absent true consistency, we should adopt where there is consistency, that is where there is no comma. 100.16.98.155 (talk) 02:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rankings in lede[edit]

With regards to the edit made by @ElKevbo, I note that University of California, Los Angeles does mention its ranking as a public university. WP:BOOSTER suggests replacing "…is widely acknowledged as the preeminent university by most university rankings" with "…is ranked A by X, B by Y, and C by Z", so I am unsure why the same couldn't be done here.

One point of contention is the removal of the amount of applications received—I am unsure why @GuardianH did this as it being the second most applied to university in the United States is a noteworthy fact, and is similarly mentioned in the opening of University of California, Los Angeles. This is not WP:UNDUE.Blimpherd (talk) 08:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like WP:BOOSTER is outdated and out of sync with WP:HIGHEREDREP; we should update it to avoid this (understandable) confusion. ElKevbo (talk) 11:29, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:DUE, information in the lede should be summaries of the content in the body. The application fact wasn't even in the body, so it didn't make sense to put it prominently in the lede. GuardianH (talk) 14:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The official name is the University of California, San Diego[edit]

I just reverted this edit on 6 April 2024 which was clearly wrong. The edit summary was: "The conclusion that the Regents diligently named campuses with a comma is not fully supported by the citation."

No, the conclusion is fully supported. The cited source is an official letter written by former UCSD chancellor Richard C. Atkinson in his capacity at the time as the President of the University of California to all chancellors to reiterate that the proper usage includes a comma. At the end, he then specified the "official campus names" along with the dates of their Regental approval. All nine campus names included a comma.

Anyone familiar with UC history would know that the comma was specifically adopted as a symbol of the campuses' independence, especially the independence of Los Angeles from Berkeley. Clark Kerr went out of his way to praise the Davis campus in his memoirs for not having "hang-ups" with Berkeley like Los Angeles. Coolcaesar (talk) 23:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Student Protests - 1980s and South Africa?[edit]

In reading the history section, the protests against the Vietnam War and the protests by pro-Palestinian students are mentioned, but nothing about the campus protests in the 1980s urging divestment from companies doing business in South Africa. I believe this is important as a) anyone who was on-campus in the 1980s certainly remembers the "shanty towns" that took over Revelle Plaza and the area in front of the Humanities Library, and b) the reaction by the administration of Atkinson was to ban all overnight structures on campus. That latter issue (also undertaken on other campuses at the time) has become a basis for the encampment bans that have been an issue in pro-Palestinian protests. Does anyone else agree that these protests should be a part of the history section? 2603:8000:1001:40FB:61EA:258D:EA7:5A3F (talk) 18:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]