User:Bookku/Talk page preparation

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WP:ARE#Petextrodon[edit]

Though uninvolved why I am taking interest?

To begin with I took interest thinking it may be simple content issue spilling over because not following WP:DDE and WP:DR properly. Some of my interest align with my understanding of South Asia, war time humanitarian issues and impact of polarization related initiated drafts I did not work on up til now and User:Boud/Draft:WikiProject Peace last but not latest initiative from my side on RfC etiquette.

My understanding of the issues

Though it may have been simple WP:DR issue initially:

  • Multiple article talk page discussions seem to have opened in relatively short duration some weeks?
1) Unwillingness to distance and move on after putting across their point of views due to Passionate WP:nationalist editing leading to:
1.1) Some users really may not be aware of canvassing related rules, hence some cohesiveness seem to be there looking like vote stacking.
1.2) Set of users seem to be discussing same things over and over again with limited recourse to meaningful policy based discussions.
1.3) Not taking discussion breaks and distancing even when issues are at central notice boards like ANI ARE.
1.2 and 1.3 together seem to give impression of WP:BATTLEGROUND
My suggested solutions

IMO some out of box solution would be needed.

1) Improving understanding among users about RfC etiquette and WP is not for WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Increasing user awareness that impact of Wikipedia articles on real life scenarios is less than marginal compared to any other mass media or social may help.
2) At least for six months Status quo at all Wikipedia:Contentious topics/Sri Lanka.
3) Distancing by present set of involved users / Topic ban at least for one year.
4) To break monopoly, if any, of present set of users, some innovative strategy, so that up til now uninvolved but WP policy well versed new set of users join the discussions to help resolve pending issues after six months.
5) After one year strict word limits and how many edits and comments they can make in present CTOP area.
6) Mean while I would concur with Robert McClenon suggestion one month immediate Topic ban on all and additional topic bans as needed individually for extended period on those users unwilling to fall in the line.

Talk:Jinn RfC formatting[edit]

  • All the present three users are on the same page to follow RfC etiquette
  • Changes since DRN User Louis P. Boog and TheEagle107 agreed to sort out their expected updates in article body first by creating sandbox page with exact updates they expect are at User:Louis P. Boog/sandbox/Jinn sandbox 4-20-2024
  • Update is requested there are 4 paragraphs, consisting 9 sentences around 12 inline refs and around 15 supportive refs in foot note by TheEagle107. User Louis P. Boog and TheEagle107 pl. count and suggest correction, if any. Please suggest if we need to number those paragraphs/ sentences for convenience.
  • Can we divide RfC in two sets one set that intends to add emphasize upon importance of Jinn in Islam, Muslim scholarship and Muslim world; the second set that contains doubts about Jinn. The second set VenusFeuerFalle wishes to challenge under WP:NOTNP.
  • We seem to need assistance in formatting RfC. We can ping admin and The WP:DRN the moderator User:Robert McClenon since they expressed their willingness to provide assistance in submitting an RFC if requested.

How about One more essay regarding WP:RS?[edit]

May be you know, here @ WP I keep taking some constructive initiatives to fill information and knowledge gap areas. Also have started doing little bit of content level of mentoring. Since last couple of months I am contemplating to take initiative to get couple of essays written from other experienced users.

One essay I would like to take initiative is about meticulous selection and application of academic scholarly sources that would have better chance to stand at GA, FA, CTOP and during any intense level of content negotiation. Some thing similar to WP:TIERS but with more practical examples and guidance.

Idk from where to begin whom all to request. I know as of now already there are good number of essays exist and still I do think there is scope for reviewing present essays finding and discussing gap areas and promoting one more essay as said above.

I wanted to discuss question 'Where to begin?' on my mind,

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