Talk:Siege of Yorktown
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observation[edit]
"half of his supply of gold Spanish coins." Please change to "half of his supply of Spanish gold coins."
Requested move 16 October 2021[edit]
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved as per Necrothesp. Sceptre (talk) 23:46, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Siege of Yorktown (1781) → Siege of Yorktown
- Battle of Yorktown → Siege of Yorktown (disambiguation)
– Siege of Yorktown (1781) was boldly moved from its base name Siege of Yorktown last year (see above section) and the base name presently is a redirect there. However, either the 1781 event is the primary topic and that article should exist at the base name without parenthetical disambiguation per WP:QUALIFIER, or there is no primary topic and a disambiguation page should exist at the base name per WP:NOPRIMARY; either way the base name cannot be a redirect. In addition, the disambiguation page is currently at Battle of Yorktown even though both disambiguated terms are Siege of Yorktown, and finally, there is no hatnote to either Siege of Yorktown (1862) or the dab page, so anyone searching for Siege of Yorktown and seeking the Civil War event has no easy way to get there. I propose that the Revolutionary War event is the primary topic (as it was, albeit without proper hatnotes, for years). Alternatively, if it is deemed there is no primary topic, the dab page at Battle of Yorktown should be moved to Siege of Yorktown. Either way, hatnotes should be updated as needed. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:25, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose not because it wouldn't be the most concise and fine title, but because leaving the year in the title educates the reader and augments their mental map as to the time period of this pivotal event in American history. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Support 1st. The AWI siege is the very clear primary topic. Redirect Battle of Yorktown to Siege of Yorktown and add a hatnote. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:55, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- Support move proposal as modified by User:Necrothesp. --Coolcaesar (talk) 13:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
location questions[edit]
Where was the surrender document signed....at the Moore House? Also, do we know the exact location of the surrender ceremony? The article only says, quote, "At 2:00 pm the allied army entered the British positions, with the French on the left and the Americans on the right." ~~ Elsquared67 (talk) 05:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
Commanding officers[edit]
Shouldn't Baron von Steuben be listed as well? I wanted to add him, but couldn't find the country data for Prussia. SureStrike1943 (talk) 13:21, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- He is already listed. He was not acting as a representative of Prussia. Cinderella157 (talk) 22:36, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- Whoops, my bad. Didn't see him. I'm new to Wiki editing, and thought that the flags should symbolize their country of origin. SureStrike1943 (talk) 13:30, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
"German battle"?[edit]
The first sentence of this article states that the Siege is also known as "the German battle because of the presence of Germans in all three armies." There are no sources that establish this as an English naming convention, and I have certainly never heard it myself. It may be described as such in the German language, but as per Wikipedia:Article titles, this should not be included in the introduction. I have no issue with it being mentioned in the body of the article, but including it in the introduction is misleading at best. I would recommend removing it. Any opposition? 15:59, 26 September 2023 (UTC) XenoTalk|Contributions 15:59, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- If it isn't supported by sources, we don't include. Cinderella157 (talk) 00:48, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
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It is surprising that French naval commander is mentioned... but not its troops. De Grasse's fleet was made of "37 ships including 28 ships-of-the-line, (large battleships), 7 frigates and 2 cutters" - which is around 30,000 men by the standards of this era. For instance, in 1780, French ship of the line Invincible had a complement of 1,055 men https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Invincible_(1780) ; and French ship of the line Royal Louis had a complement of 1,150 men https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Royal_Louis_(1780)
Strength should be corrected to reflect that France deployed around 40,000 men at the siege of Yorktown - not 10,000. 2A01:E0A:904:D3A0:9453:F6B6:4E8:1A3B (talk) 00:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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