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Please review Wikipedia:Rollback before making a request. Successful applicants will usually have:
  1. At least 200 mainspace edits.
  2. At least a month of experience patrolling Special:RecentChanges.
  3. No recent history of edit warring.
  4. A track record of consistently notifying editors when reverting their edits.
The counter-vandalism training program is available if you wish to gain experience in handling vandalism.

User:HirowoWiki

I've been active at recent changes for more than 3 months to help revert vandalism and report AIV, which is successful. Rollback rights need access to a counter-vandalism tool. HirowoWiki (talk | contribs) 01:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A few concerns:
  1. A couple of days ago, you were warned about misleading edits summaries wrt this edit. Please explain, in your own words, why this edit was inappropriate.
  2. I see that you are failing to consistently warn editors when you revert their edits (e.g. 1, 2, 3). Why? Are you aware that we have tools such as Twinkle or Ultraviolet that make this extremely easy?
-Fastily 21:31, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot to leave a warning message. Also, I made a misleading edit summary and not a typo. HirowoWiki (talk | contribs) 21:47, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moving forward, what will you do ensure that you are always leaving a notification? Right after your last reply, I noticed that you failed to notify an editor after making a this revert. What exactly do you mean by "made a misleading edit summary and not a typo"? Like I said, both the contents of the edit and edit summary are inappropriate. Can you explain why? -Fastily 06:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've undid the last edit; they should leave a warning message. I changed the template with uppercase letters like {{pp|small=yes}} → {{Pp|small=yes}} and {{featured article}} → {{Featured article}}. The template shouldn't be changed in this article. Thank you for the explanation. HirowoWiki (talk | contribs) 07:47, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you being so evasive with your answers? I'm not asking you trick questions or attempting to embarrass you. Please re-read my reply above and answer the questions please. -Fastily 05:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will ensure to leave a warning message after reverting your edit. The misleading edit summary referred to providing incorrect information in the summary, which did not accurately reflect the changes made in the edit. This can be misleading to other editors who check the edit history. HirowoWiki (talk | contribs) 08:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please ensure that you are always leaving warnings. I can't stress enough the importance of not biting the newcomers; if you find yourself reverting good faith edits, then it's especially important to notify the editor; I recommend using tools such as Twinkle or Ultraviolet which makes this extremely easy. If you don't want to leave a template warning, that's completely fine, but you do need to leave a talk page message explaining why you reverted the edit. Moving forward, could you please make a promise to leave warnings/notifications for every revert? And it sounds like you're not familiar with WP:COSMETIC changes, which capitalizing template translcusions falls under. The community frowns upon such edits, so please also acknowledge below that you won't be making such edits in the future. -Fastily 09:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leave warnings for edits, use tools like Twinkle or Ultraviolet for easy notifications. Avoid biting newcomers and explain reverts with talk page messages. Refrain from WP:COSMETIC changes like capitalizing template transclusions. HirowoWiki (talk | contribs) 11:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Sneezless

I've been patrolling recent changes for almost a year now, and the rollback right would mean I could start using Huggle for that, as I've been meaning to do for a while now. Sneezless (talk) (contribs) 21:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done I noticed you make a handful of edits, and then drop off for months at a time. While I appreciate your enthusiasm, I'd like to see you spend at least a month consistently patrolling RecentChanges (Twinkle & Ultraviolet can help with that) before reapplying. Also, please ensure that you are always warning editors when you revert their edits. Thanks, Fastily 06:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the tips. I'm already using Redwarn for warnings, but did you notice any particular times when I didn't properly warn users? I've been using the ProblemWelcome and WelcomeIP templates instead fairly often, since most editors I'd otherwise use a warning template on are new editors. Sneezless (talk) (contribs) 13:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, here's a few from the past month: 1, 2, 3 -Fastily 05:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Clearfrienda

I'm requesting the rollback right so I can use Huggle when I'm patrolling recent changes. I was granted the right on trial about a year ago but I never got around to requesting it again. Clearfrienda 💬 04:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done I reviewed your contributions and found little to no recent anti-vandalism work. Given that your rollback trial ended almost a year ago, I'd like to see you spend time actively participating in RecentChanges patrol before granting you this right. If you're still interested in this tool then please spend at least a month actively patrolling RecentChanges (Twinkle & Ultraviolet can help with that) before reapplying. Also, please ensure that you are consistently warning editors when you revert their edits. Thanks, Fastily 06:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Air on White

I have been active on RCP over the past month. I would like rollback for the particular case where a vandal persistently vandalizes the same page. It takes time to load via Twinkle and is frustrating when my attempt to revert fails because the vandal or someone else has made more edits. I believe rollback will save me time and make my efforts against vandalism more effective. Air on White (talk) 03:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you are failing to consistently warn editors when you revert their edits (e.g. 1, 2, 3). Why? Are you aware that we have tools such as Twinkle or Ultraviolet that make this extremely easy? -Fastily 05:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do not warn users in what I assume to be legitimate content disputes, as warning would be patronizing and unconducive to discussion. The user who added the name of one of Pat Morita's grandchildren appeared to be acting in good faith; I reverted not because he was vandalizing or disruptive, but because the person did not have his own Wikipedia article. The argument here is not about vandalism, NPOV or BLP, but simply a content dispute about what is proper to include in the infobox. Meanwhile, in the case of Matthew Heineman, that was the third edit by a user who added BLP violations who was hopping to a different IP for every edit. It is useless to warn such a user, who I had already warned twice on two different IPs, just as it is useless to further warn a user who has received a level 4 warning and is still vandalizing. My failure to warn the vandal on The Chris Moyles Show was a mistake on my part, possibly because I forgot after I restored the page to remove vandalism by multiple IPs. I hope this helps you understand my editing process. Air on White (talk) 06:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you take a look at my contributions, it will be beyond obvious that I am aware of Twinkle and am regularly using it to warn users. Air on White (talk) 06:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter whether it's "a dispute" or a good faith edit: you need to leave a notification. I can't stress enough the importance of not biting the newcomers; if you find yourself reverting good faith edits, then it's especially important to notify the editor; I recommend using tools such as Twinkle or Ultraviolet which makes this extremely easy. If you don't want to leave a template warning, that's completely fine, but you do need to leave a talk page message explaining why you reverted the edit. Moving forward, could you please make a promise to leave warnings/notifications for every revert? -Fastily 09:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:RodRabelo7

Hello,

Roughly a month ago, I requested to be granted rollback rights. The administrator who responded, Fastily, asked me to patrol recent changes for a month before requesting the permission again. Having done so, I believe I am now ready to become a rollbacker. As mentioned in my previous request, I've been a rollbacker on Commons for quite some time now – over a year –, understanding how the tool works and the risks associated with it, and committing myself not to misuse it, under the risk of losing it temporarily or permanently, and even being blocked.

Having patrolled recent changes for this month, with over 700 reversions in the main domain, I'm now more confident than ever in distinguishing between obvious vandalism, non-constructive changes, and good-faith edits, for example. I always make sure to notify editors after reverting their edits, so that these newcomers are not "bitten" (e.g. 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, 3a, 3b, 4a, 4b, 5a, 5b). Sometimes I even notify and guide them without reverting their edits; that's why I currently have a bit more warnings on user pages than reversions in the main domain.

I also have a constant presence in Administrator intervention against vandalism, with a considerably high success rate (that is, the ratio between blocked accounts and reports). Of the more than 20 accounts I reported there (ignoring the IPs), only one was not blocked, for reasons I now understand well, so these will not be repeated. I have even opened a checkuser request as a result of my anti-vandalism activities (although this request was deleted in favor of one created later, I don't know precisely why).

Therefore, I would like to finally become a rollbacker. As mentioned before, I would like to have access to semi-automatic tools, namely Huggle, which would greatly facilitate my anti-vandalism work, making it more efficient. I enjoy patrolling recent changes, and rollback rights would certainly make my life easier.

Thanks, RodRabelo7 (talk) 09:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Automated comment This user has had 1 request for rollback declined in the past 90 days ([1]). — MusikBot talk 09:20, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that you're indef blocked at your home wiki (ptwiki). Could you comment on that please? -Fastily 09:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fastily,
Yes, unfortunately it is true that I am currently blocked on my home wiki. I was blocked there due to an administrative decision. At the time, there was suspicion that I was a sockpuppet of some long-term abuser. I was associated, among others, with someone named Quintinense. There was a certain wikihounding surrounding my edits, which I perceived as harassment and tried to respond accordingly. This eventually led to a discussion where the majority of participating administrators supported the block. Needless to say, I have nothing to do with this account I was associated with, which has even harassed me here on this project (Quintinense → Pórokhov → Ertrinken: harassment here, here, and probably here, to mention just a few).
Trying to be succinct so that you, unfamiliar with the specific Wikipedia in question, can understand the issue, what I can say is that people change, and today I have a completely different view than I did almost two years ago regarding the dynamics of a collaborative editing environment – a view that is constantly evolving, by the way. I always strive to improve as a person and as a user, and I believe my activities not only here and on Commons, but also on Wiktionary and Wikisource (in Portuguese and French), demonstrate my good faith towards Wikimedia projects.
I am open to further questions if you believe they are necessary to better clarify the issue.
Respectfully, RodRabelo7 (talk) 10:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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